Front scye measure device

Started by vaibhavkhurana, December 17, 2024, 06:48:50 PM

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vaibhavkhurana

Has anyone used this or recreated this?
And is anyone selling it ?

If used do share your input.




peterle

Well, it shouldn't be to complicated to copy. The drawing says " full size drawing". To get the right size you only have to scale it up till the 1inch of the tapes are 1inch.
I would cut it from a sturdy plastic like a placemat.

vaibhavkhurana

Hey,

Idk why i never thought of that lmfao. Have you used it before tho?

peterle

I have used something similar with just one tape. It was nice to determin how backwidth, armhole widths and chest width sum up to the chest girth.
But yours has three tapes. I suppose it is used to triangulate the position, widths and depth of the armhole. The pattern draft will obviousley tell you where to use these new measurements.
But I do not understand,why the tapes all start at different points. In my eyes they all should start at the same point, the crossing of scye bottom line and scye front line. Probably the text explains.

Der Zuschneider

Quote from: vaibhavkhurana on December 17, 2024, 06:48:50 PMHas anyone used this or recreated this?
And is anyone selling it ?

If used do share your input.




I have one of those and another one which is a whole frame. Bought them 2011. They are ultra rare and cost a fortune now.
Tailoring is the love of doing art at OCD level.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/196434445@N05/albums

peterle

What are your experiences?
Did you use them and are they useful devices?
There was a similar  kind of frame metal device for the Lenassi System "Der Reformschneider". Didn't look very handy...

Der Zuschneider

Quote from: peterle on December 22, 2024, 07:45:30 PMWhat are your experiences?
Did you use them and are they useful devices?
There was a similar  kind of frame metal device for the Lenassi System "Der Reformschneider". Didn't look very handy...
I have that Lenassi device here too in a box. Excellent tool. Probably the best ever developed.
But really you dont need those devices. You can use a strong paper folded in the middle and put it under the arm to find the scye depth. Once you have the scye depth compared with the proportion, you can figure out, what is wrong with the body.
Tailoring is the love of doing art at OCD level.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/196434445@N05/albums

vaibhavkhurana

Could you post photos and info on it ? Maybe i can try and recreate it somehow ?

peterle


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Der Zuschneider

Quote from: peterle on December 27, 2024, 07:45:55 PM



Pic found online and here is a link on how to use the device
https://www.flickr.com/photos/51199854@N08/with/4698755987
That it's the box I have, I could sell it for 1000$. But I Won't
Tailoring is the love of doing art at OCD level.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/196434445@N05/albums

vaibhavkhurana


vaibhavkhurana

Quote from: Der Zuschneider on December 28, 2024, 09:48:30 AM
Quote from: peterle on December 27, 2024, 07:45:55 PM



Pic found online and here is a link on how to use the device
https://www.flickr.com/photos/51199854@N08/with/4698755987
That it's the box I have, I could sell it for 1000$. But I Won't

I mean rather than selling it perhaps if the copyright or trademark is not violated perhaps you could reproduce something like this ? Idk i guess i'm just yapping.

Greger

A Tailor, when he wrote, said that he used a tailors square. He said it has to be absolutely level or plume. At the edge where the armhole is, up under the armhole. Then you can mark the inside corner of the square. And from there you use that point for measurements.

The old pattern systems British-American use 1/4 inch seam allowances. Pushing the square all the way up in the scye and the other part of square at the front edge of scye the seam is going to be a quarter inch away. The system might add the width and height. At the fitting you might find that their personal portions require adjustments to the coat and you might add some proportions. This is why inlays are important. People also change their mind about what they want- inlays come in handy for those adjustments.

vaibhavkhurana

Quote from: Greger on December 29, 2024, 06:27:07 AMA Tailor, when he wrote, said that he used a tailors square. He said it has to be absolutely level or plume. At the edge where the armhole is, up under the armhole. Then you can mark the inside corner of the square. And from there you use that point for measurements.

The old pattern systems British-American use 1/4 inch seam allowances. Pushing the square all the way up in the scye and the other part of square at the front edge of scye the seam is going to be a quarter inch away. The system might add the width and height. At the fitting you might find that their personal portions require adjustments to the coat and you might add some proportions. This is why inlays are important. People also change their mind about what they want- inlays come in handy for those adjustments.

Kind of stuck between overshoulder, strap, blade measurement and with the combination of cutters practical guide and the regal system. Kind of trying to recreate my own version of a nice fitting drape cut.

I guess i'll keep this in account aswell with the measurements.

Thank you for the help Greger 😄