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Historical And Period Costumes => Costumers Forum => Topic started by: Henry Hall on November 14, 2018, 10:19:29 AM

Title: Robe-Banyan
Post by: Henry Hall on November 14, 2018, 10:19:29 AM
Can anyone point to a draft for a robe/dressing gown more like those in use during the 18th/19th centuries? The ones I mean are those that are more fitted and incorporate a waist-seam. Such garments were based on the banyan. Here's a picture of one of those:

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/7f/1f/f8/7f1ff881859ac0508f2a7ef6bc166e61.jpg)

In the film Kind Hearts and Coronets (1947) Denis Price wears a similar garment, but with ridiculous peak lapels.
Title: Re: Robe-Banyan
Post by: peterle on November 14, 2018, 09:35:51 PM
It´s a more modern pattern, but I´m sure you can adapt it for a robe:

http://movsd.com/BespokeCutter/index.php?topic=170.0 (http://movsd.com/BespokeCutter/index.php?topic=170.0)

Your yellow example is obviousely a pattern from at least 1850 ore even earlier. I´m sure it will have a very crooked front shoulder, a shoulder seam shifted to the back and slimmer curvier sleeves than the modern pattern.

Maybe Jruley has an historical pattern?
Title: Re: Robe-Banyan
Post by: Schneiderfrei on November 14, 2018, 11:53:42 PM
I expect this will not meet your every need but,

http://www.lacma.org/sites/default/files/FF_patterns_mansrobe_0.pdf
Title: Re: Robe-Banyan
Post by: Henry Hall on November 15, 2018, 03:40:40 AM
Thanks gents. It seems I need to think about historical drafts. The link to the priest cassock is excellent, but difficult to read.

Btw, I ran into a firefox (and chrome) extension which overrides Photobucket's severed links for embedded photos and also allows you to download the images. If you try to download them now they don't show up in the image viewer; not mine anyway.

Chrome version (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/photobucket-fixer/ogipgokcopooepeipngiikdkpmcpkaon)
Firefox version (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/photobucket-fixer/)

Title: Re: Robe-Banyan
Post by: TTailor on November 28, 2018, 09:28:36 AM

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4886/32208376898_a7465de685_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Robe-Banyan
Post by: TTailor on November 28, 2018, 09:29:24 AM
Sorry for the delay, this is from the Cut of Men's Clothes.
Title: Re: Robe-Banyan
Post by: TTailor on November 28, 2018, 09:30:30 AM
I don't think I have seen any patterns with a waist seam.
Title: Re: Robe-Banyan
Post by: TTailor on November 28, 2018, 09:32:57 AM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4879/46079625811_fd05983a04_c.jpg)

From a book called "The Magnificence of the Tsars" if i recall correctly.
Title: Re: Robe-Banyan
Post by: Thom Bennett on November 28, 2018, 07:59:23 PM
From reading my old books the instruction is to make form the Chesterfield basic pattern, if you want one with a waist seem how about using a frock coat pattern and changing the style lines. They then just go on about how dressing gowns were to be made up.  It's really all about the style lines and whether you wish to add drape, the amount of ease and flare required, so one could create a robe from a fitted lounge coat pattern, even shirt as the major fitting points are all there.
Title: Re: Robe-Banyan
Post by: Henry Hall on November 30, 2018, 12:27:05 PM
That red banyan up there is spectacular.

Yes Tom, I thought about a frock coat adaptation.