Well, I spent most of my beach trip yesterday on a google-fu quest and found some of these rare drafts. Some of these include a wartime copy of T&C magazine dated 1943. Do anyone here have clearer, more complete copies of these drafts?
(https://i.postimg.cc/SXRbMK6b/SAM-6338.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SXRbMK6b)
(https://i.postimg.cc/HJND4Czc/SAM-6341.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HJND4Czc)
Pattern 40(?) British Battledress draft (the blouse's instructions were cut off; any full copy with complete instructions?)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4HJDXNN0/SAM-6287.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4HJDXNN0)
(https://i.postimg.cc/jCcVZNMY/SAM-6288.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jCcVZNMY)
Air Cadet tunic. This is the first time I knew this existed.
Found them on warrelics.eu BTW.
Are these not all in Vol II or III of MTOC?
Doesnt look like MTOC to me. And MTOC tends to only real with dress uniforms.
Many drafts from that period in T&C magazine (the magazine in the photos is from 1941) are either in MTOC or are simply minor variations.
My basis here is the 1948 edition of MTOC Ratspeed uploaded (which I have as a PDF). So.... would be delighted to see a complete text on the Battledress blouse draft.
Anyone still up?
Quote from: LeiaOrgana2187 on November 14, 2018, 10:16:00 AM
My basis here is the 1948 edition of MTOC Ratspeed uploaded (which I have as a PDF). So.... would be delighted to see a complete text on the Battledress blouse draft.
That's only MTOC 1 though isn't it? Or has Ratspeed now also done vols 2 and 3? To be honest I can't even remember what the entire contents of vols 2 and 3 is!
Henry Hall there were three volumes available. I can't remember where I downloaded them from, I think it must have been Ratspeed. The year is 1919 for volume 2 and 3.
Vol 2 chapter titles are mostly Specialist occasions and Women's and Children's,
Vol 3 chapter titles are mostly Wholesale issues, outfitting, separates and attachables such as collars, underwear, head wear, gloves etc.
On the other hand Tom Bennett did put up a version that was of much improved quality and was from 1949 - but only Vol 1.
The vol 2 I have is a very good scan, but the file size is enormous. I extracted the pages I wanted and hardly ever open the huge file.
Meanwhile..... I found these on Pinterest while trying to scour the Carré-System book by Rudolf Maurer.
(https://i.postimg.cc/SX0cGhRL/qa01-02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SX0cGhRL)
Yes. This is the Kokumin-fuku, the unofficial men's attire in Japan during the 1940s.
(https://i.postimg.cc/6ymryRNm/u140861637-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6ymryRNm)
Can anyone shed more light to these? So far, this is the only extant pattern I discovered. Cannot go any further as my phone lacks a Japanese keyboard; only Mandarin.
I'm not going to translate that. ;P
The one on the left isn't much different than a Mao suit, or a Bond villain suit (Dr Evil).
Well, a stark difference from the Mao suit is that the Kokumin-fuku can be worn either with an open or closed collar; Mao suits are always worn shut.
Quote from: LeiaOrgana2187 on December 14, 2018, 05:02:58 PM
Well, a stark difference from the Mao suit is that the Kokumin-fuku can be worn either with an open or closed collar; Mao suits are always worn shut.
They're not. A Mao suit is not one with a mandarin collar, it has a normal, shirt-like collar worn open or closed.
Quote from: Henry Hall on December 14, 2018, 09:52:40 PM
Quote from: LeiaOrgana2187 on December 14, 2018, 05:02:58 PM
Well, a stark difference from the Mao suit is that the Kokumin-fuku can be worn either with an open or closed collar; Mao suits are always worn shut.
They're not. A Mao suit is not one with a mandarin collar, it has a normal, shirt-like collar worn open or closed.
Both Mao suits and the Kokumin-fuku have shirt-like collar. My point is that the Kokumin-fuku can also be worn unbuttoned while the Mao Suit is worn closed most of the time.
(https://i.postimg.cc/F1sBRkyn/jpeg-Output-11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1sBRkyn)
Also found this pattern too in WarRelics. I suspect that this is the Manchurian Kyowafuku.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bScr6f9Z/collar1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bScr6f9Z)
The guide for collars from the same book.
Quote from: Henry Hall on December 14, 2018, 06:00:02 AM
The one on the left isn't much different than a Mao suit, or a Bond villain suit (Dr Evil).
Why am I thinking of Kim Yong Il?
Quote from: Hendrick on January 28, 2019, 06:01:55 AM
Quote from: Henry Hall on December 14, 2018, 06:00:02 AM
The one on the left isn't much different than a Mao suit, or a Bond villain suit (Dr Evil).
Why am I thinking of Kim Yong Il?
I think you mean
Kim Jong-un.
Found these in a Russian reenactors forum.... can anyone have clearer copies?
(https://i.postimg.cc/KkFq2ZmH/57-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KkFq2ZmH)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TyTg2hWg/57.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TyTg2hWg)
Close-up detail
(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9wqMhDD/57-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9wqMhDD)
No no, his father, actually...
Quote from: LeiaOrgana2187 on January 31, 2019, 05:57:08 PM
Found these in a Russian reenactors forum.... can anyone have clearer copies?
(https://i.postimg.cc/KkFq2ZmH/57-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KkFq2ZmH)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TyTg2hWg/57.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TyTg2hWg)
Close-up detail
(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9wqMhDD/57-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9wqMhDD)
Quote from: LeiaOrgana2187 on January 31, 2019, 05:57:08 PMFound these in a Russian reenactors forum.... can anyone have clearer copies?
(https://i.postimg.cc/KkFq2ZmH/57-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KkFq2ZmH)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TyTg2hWg/57.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TyTg2hWg)
Close-up detail
(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9wqMhDD/57-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9wqMhDD)
I got an earlier version of guide of drafting and making battledress here:
https://movsd.com/BespokeCutter/index.php/topic,1567.0.html (https://movsd.com/BespokeCutter/index.php/topic,1567.0.html)
Also I have a clearer picture of the offiziers fieldbluse one. Another post of a 1930s German book that I sent also contains some drafts of uniform
Quote from: Henry Hall on December 14, 2018, 06:00:02 AMThe one on the left isn't much different than a Mao suit, or a Bond villain suit (Dr Evil).
Or worse, an Austin Powers villain...
Cheerio, Hendrick
I have the Rudolf Maurer cutting book in excellent condition in box for 550$. It has all the uniforms.
I also had a uniform cutting book from 1935 it sold in one day for 350$. But I made an excellent copy and rebound, looks better than the original, selling for 250$.
Quote from: Der Zuschneider on December 25, 2024, 07:44:12 AMI have the Rudolf Maurer cutting book in excellent condition in box for 550$. It has all the uniforms.
I also had a uniform cutting book from 1935 it sold in one day for 350$. But I made an excellent copy and rebound, looks better than the original, selling for 250$.
I'm kind of curious. Can I ask if you could preview me some of the stuff in private messages?
I was away for these few years because uni life is a dog.
Quote from: OlymposPartizanos on December 21, 2024, 02:18:02 PMQuote from: LeiaOrgana2187 on January 31, 2019, 05:57:08 PMFound these in a Russian reenactors forum.... can anyone have clearer copies?
(https://i.postimg.cc/KkFq2ZmH/57-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KkFq2ZmH)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TyTg2hWg/57.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TyTg2hWg)
Close-up detail
(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9wqMhDD/57-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9wqMhDD)
I got an earlier version of guide of drafting and making battledress here:
https://movsd.com/BespokeCutter/index.php/topic,1567.0.html (https://movsd.com/BespokeCutter/index.php/topic,1567.0.html)
Also I have a clearer picture of the offiziers fieldbluse one. Another post of a 1930s German book that I sent also contains some drafts of uniform
You mind if you could share some of it, privately?
Quote from: LeiaOrgana2187 on February 10, 2025, 12:02:43 PMQuote from: OlymposPartizanos on December 21, 2024, 02:18:02 PMQuote from: LeiaOrgana2187 on January 31, 2019, 05:57:08 PMFound these in a Russian reenactors forum.... can anyone have clearer copies?
(https://i.postimg.cc/KkFq2ZmH/57-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KkFq2ZmH)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TyTg2hWg/57.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TyTg2hWg)
Close-up detail
(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9wqMhDD/57-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9wqMhDD)
I got an earlier version of guide of drafting and making battledress here:
https://movsd.com/BespokeCutter/index.php/topic,1567.0.html (https://movsd.com/BespokeCutter/index.php/topic,1567.0.html)
Also I have a clearer picture of the offiziers fieldbluse one. Another post of a 1930s German book that I sent also contains some drafts of uniform
You mind if you could share some of it, privately?
Pictures have been sent. I found it 2 years ago somewhere on internet, but I can't remember where it was from. It seems to be a similar drafting system from the German book I sent