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Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Henry Hall on July 30, 2016, 08:22:07 PM

Title: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Henry Hall on July 30, 2016, 08:22:07 PM
I do believe that our own Tombennett departs for Ireland today to take up a place at Rory Duffy's training school. I haven't been able to contact him, but I'd like to wish the old Bristolian the best of luck.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: TTailor on July 30, 2016, 09:45:49 PM
Yes, good luck and I hope he has time to discuss some aspects of his experience along the way.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Thom Bennett on July 31, 2016, 05:43:13 AM
Hi Guys, thanks. I will try and post updates and thoughts as the time passes but I am guessing there may not be enough of it.  I am actually off at 5 o'clock BST for the short flight across the Irish Sea.  Really looking forward meeting Rory and mining him for knowledge, it was difficult finding a suitcase that could fit my old tailors' square.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: hutch-- on July 31, 2016, 09:55:50 AM
Hope you enjoy yourself Tom, learn a lot and master the art of Guinness consumption.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Greger on July 31, 2016, 12:41:57 PM
Remember, you are learning, so don't give away secrets, or he wouldn't have a class to teach.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: pfaff260 on August 01, 2016, 02:48:15 PM
Good luck. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Schneiderfrei on August 02, 2016, 05:38:54 PM
The best of luck and good wishes Tom.

Graham
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Thom Bennett on August 03, 2016, 02:23:48 AM
Well, so far so good, two days in. :)  Rory is a great guy and the other two students are fun too.  I am in the middle age wise and the only male apart from the master.  We have started to learn Rory's drafting methods which on the face of it seems to be a very good system, so far we have drafted the top part of a pair of trousers; I am starting to understand what I have been doing for the last year.  I'm going to take some photos to post but we have bene very busy.  We have no distractions here as we are situated in the middle of absolutely nowhere, though probably not as desolate as the outback, eh Hutch.  As we are in Ireland the weather is changeable.  We stay at Rory's parent house who have set up as a self-catering situation in their house.  The academy itself is in Rory's house which is a beautiful late 19th century farm house with adjoining farm, with the obligatory stray kittens.  Rory has done an amazing job getting his academy up and running and I am truly pleased to be a member of the first cohort to experience the course.

More updates as they come.
8)
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: hutch-- on August 03, 2016, 04:56:19 PM
Sounds great Tom, from the footage I have seen the Irish countryside is very attractive so you get a holiday as well as tuition.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Thom Bennett on August 15, 2016, 12:58:40 AM
Here we are at the end of the second week.  So far we have been learning Rory's drafting system for trousers for which we are going to be basting up a toile to see where we are with our full understanding, I am now understanding what I was doing over the last year.  It is so nice to be able to ask questions as and when they arise.

In preparation for the coat section of the course we went on a field trip to Sligo to visit an award winning drapers to see what the ready-to-wear market are doing with relation to style, cloth and leading brands.  We were tasked to measure and equate a selection of suits.

Here are some pictures.
(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Kiltubrid/kiltubrid-backfields%202%20of%204-2_zpsj0qiggcx.jpg)
The first is Rory's parents house where we are billeted, wonderful people who can't do enough for you and especially me with my disability.  That's my room with the light on.  I took this picture from the fields behind the house from where I took the following image.


(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Kiltubrid/kiltubrid-backfields%201%20of%204-Edit_zpswjp4bnsk.jpg)


A shot of the Academy from the house, as I have said we are very rural; the bullocks belong to Rory's father.
(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Kiltubrid/kiltubrid-backfields%204%20of%204-Edit_zps4igfsiuj.jpg)


The Academy at The Old Park Farm.
(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Rory%20Duffy%20Academy%20of%20Handcrafted%20Tailoring/the-academy2_zps4cxfvfbg.jpg)


The apprentices and the Master
(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Rory%20Duffy%20Academy%20of%20Handcrafted%20Tailoring/working-trouser-block_zpseboupj5t.jpg)


Me, standing but in pain. Sometimes it is the only way to draft.
(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Rory%20Duffy%20Academy%20of%20Handcrafted%20Tailoring/cutting-room-2_zps6ehouxix.jpg)


Rory looking at the T&C Chaudhry draft.
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Finally, the Master at work.
(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Rory%20Duffy%20Academy%20of%20Handcrafted%20Tailoring/master-at-work%201%20of%203_zpsx8w2buds.jpg)


(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Rory%20Duffy%20Academy%20of%20Handcrafted%20Tailoring/master-at-work%202%20of%203_zpsklo1ixih.jpg)


(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Rory%20Duffy%20Academy%20of%20Handcrafted%20Tailoring/master-at-work%203%20of%203_zps5pd8nc9h.jpg)


That's it for now.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: posaune on August 15, 2016, 01:57:38 AM
very impressiv. How long do you work at the day.  have you made up a toile?
Is it drafting and sewing or drafting drafting and sewing sewing?
lg
posaune
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Thom Bennett on August 15, 2016, 02:34:56 AM
Hi posaune,

We are officially studying from 10am until 4pm mon - fri, however, invariably we are there much longer including saturdays as there is a lot to learn and, wild horses can't drag us away from our cutting boards.  We are making up a toile this coming week using the blocks we have been drafting, Rory is our model as he is, to start with at any rate easy to fit before moving onto a more challenging model.  The course is cutting, we are expected to produce a three-piece calico first-baste in as few fittings as possible; the goal of course being to be able to fit in one.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: posaune on August 15, 2016, 05:11:17 AM
Can I think about it that way: You take the measure of Mr. Rory yourself, do the draft and fit the toile on him?
Or are you given the measurements?
We had first one to do for the teacher and then a toile for each other. After each session we discussed the result. Big experience.
It seams not much has changed.
lg
posaune
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Thom Bennett on August 15, 2016, 07:47:53 AM
Yes that's right, we're going to measure the Master and then draft, baste and fit a calico trousers toile on him which I am really looking forward to. Sadly, apart from Rory I am the only male on here so we can't do each other as this is cutting for men's tailoring, I am always available as a dummy; sorry model. :)
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: hutch-- on August 15, 2016, 08:45:22 AM
Thanks for the photos Tom, Ireland is an attractive place. Glad you are doing OK with Rory and learning the important stuff.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Henry Hall on August 15, 2016, 09:21:32 AM
Looks excellent. A bit of honesty with Rory and you students not dressed up to the nines while working (that's just for the youtube videos and the BBC documentaries).
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Schneiderfrei on August 15, 2016, 09:52:04 AM
It looks good to me.

BTW I did just peek a touch of lining showing at Mr Duffy's side seam, tell me a student made it for him ;p
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Thom Bennett on August 16, 2016, 02:07:44 AM
Do you know, I hadn't noticed that Graham!  I think it maybe something old, not sure he actually made this one. :)  I wear my nice trousers once a week Henry, they were fairly impressed with the brown pair I made last.  Today we have been learning how to develop the trousers block for a forward pleat, I like the way Rory drafts as there is no need for slashing patterns to create modifications.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Greger on August 16, 2016, 03:29:02 AM
Not a believer in slashing patterns to create modifications, either. There are better ways.

Some of his photos it seems like he would make a great pirate in some of these movies. If he pursued that on the side he might end up with some famous actors as customers.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Thom Bennett on September 06, 2016, 06:14:07 PM
I think Rory has many famous clients Greger :)  Here are some latest pictures of me using a proper heavy iron.  We have just finished making our first toile, a pair of trousers for Master Rory.  Ironwork is a vital part of fitting a garment, Rory wants us to understand all procedures in making up so we can fully comprehend what we are doing in drafting and cutting.


(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Rory%20Duffy%20Academy%20of%20Handcrafted%20Tailoring/tom-at-work%205%20of%206_zps0hmmrd2g.jpg)



(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Rory%20Duffy%20Academy%20of%20Handcrafted%20Tailoring/tom-at-work%204%20of%206_zps6als9xgl.jpg)

(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Rory%20Duffy%20Academy%20of%20Handcrafted%20Tailoring/tom-at-work%203%20of%206_zpsk0vdqnsm.jpg)

(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Rory%20Duffy%20Academy%20of%20Handcrafted%20Tailoring/tom-at-work%202%20of%206_zpsee3rzro8.jpg)

(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Rory%20Duffy%20Academy%20of%20Handcrafted%20Tailoring/tom-at-work%201%20of%206_zps3hxou5i4.jpg)

Emma and Marian, my cohorts making up their trouser toile.
(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/twbennett/Ireland/Rory%20Duffy%20Academy%20of%20Handcrafted%20Tailoring/emma-marian_zpsfq3v8mst.jpg)


More to follow when I have some time.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: posaune on September 07, 2016, 06:15:17 AM
nice pics. Thank you.
Oh and he uses plain household machines?
lg
posaune
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: hutch-- on September 07, 2016, 06:52:55 AM
Great photos Tom, shows just how professional Rory's teaching methods are.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Thom Bennett on September 07, 2016, 07:39:01 AM
Yes that's right posaune, we only put together calico toiles so no need for industrials; also easier on space. This was my toile and I was showing Emma and Marian how to do a bit of shrinking.  Thanks for the comments, revising trouser fitting notes tonight. Waistcoats tomorrow!  ???
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: peterle on September 09, 2016, 12:44:18 AM
I find it interesting that the iron work is done with closed seams.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Thom Bennett on September 09, 2016, 01:31:50 AM
I found it interesting too peterle. I am still going to carry on the way you all caught me to do it, as I feel the shape stays better.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: posaune on September 09, 2016, 01:43:58 AM
Well, this is funny. I had not recognized it. I do this when I fresh up my trousers to get rid of the knees and to get some shape again in.  But the fundamental shaping is done at the open seams. I remember that you had to do it on the wrong side (fear of shining) and after finishing to re- iron the crease in. Nasty business. Thanks there are teflon soles now.
lg
posaune

Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Schneiderfrei on September 09, 2016, 07:46:58 AM
Wow, thank so much for showing this Tom.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Henry Hall on September 09, 2016, 07:57:03 AM
In Poulin's book the ironwork (such as it is) is shown done on the closed seams.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: Greger on September 09, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
Hostek shows shaping at the end of the book when trousers are finished.
Title: Re: Tombennett off to Ireland
Post by: PoHappiness on December 23, 2017, 04:00:05 AM
Hello Tom,

How are you? This thread hasn't heard of any updates of late.
Just wondering how long does this course take overall?

Thanks,