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Title: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: stoo23 on July 21, 2023, 11:11:38 PM
I came across this almost by accident.

It may interest someone here if you are not already aware of it or seen this article  :)

https://www.meyerandmortimer.com/bespoke-1/2018/11/16/tailors-shears (https://www.meyerandmortimer.com/bespoke-1/2018/11/16/tailors-shears)
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: Greger on August 09, 2023, 05:44:15 AM
Good article. Thanks for posting it. They certainly don't make shears like that anymore that I know of. When buying shears now there is no selection to choose from. The old blacksmiths could reshape and balance them for the customer. Who can do that now? These tools skills and knowledge is fast disappearing. This one wooden ship builder had 4 or 5 adzes and for every specific job he would make a new handle for the one he chose. He spent several months or a couple of years at the union hall learning how and the why's to do this. Modern machinery allows for many shortcuts but not replace all the hand work for quality. How many people can mow their lawn with a scythe as good as a regular lawnmower, nowadays? Farmers who cut their hay were very good with a scythe. So much incredible knowledge and skills are being lost.
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: Schneiderfrei on August 09, 2023, 09:17:53 AM
"The shears are not your property!" I knew it!

I was certain 30 years ago that when old tailors died they were buried with their shears, and books. Now that looks like a real possibility. :)

Maybe the shears choose the tailor???
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: Greger on August 09, 2023, 10:22:08 AM
It's interesting about oiling the shears with hair oil. But, what kind of soaps where available and, added hair products. Did they add some sort of oil to their hair for combing? To keep it in place. Rubbing their shears in hair products that's in their hair. A bath once a week. That hair would have more oil from the body than hair of today that is washed daily.
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: Schneiderfrei on August 09, 2023, 03:50:25 PM
I'm more in favour of the Japanese concept of camelia oil, actually, probably smells nicer.
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: stoo23 on August 09, 2023, 04:43:43 PM
Just to be Correct  ;) it's Camellia Oil, Not Camelia oil  ;)  :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_seed_oil

I purchased a bottle some years back, via ebay, but many places carry it now, especially good Gardening and/or Woodworking Tool stores.

Has been used for Centuries to maintain Japanese cutting, gardening and tools such as chisels and planes as well kitchen knives swords and other Natural & polished carbon steel implements etc.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZBVpKXG9/Camellia-Oil-100ml.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZBVpKXG9)
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: Schneiderfrei on August 09, 2023, 06:56:28 PM
No problems being spell checked. ;)

We have carbitec here, they probably have it.
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: stoo23 on August 09, 2023, 11:29:26 PM
Yeah they definitely carry it  :)
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: Steelmillal on August 10, 2023, 07:04:56 AM
Baby oil. It's ultra filtered mineral oil (petrolium oil) without additives and found everywhere. I use leather dubbin (animal fats) for use short storage and petroleum jelly for long term shelf life.
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: Steelmillal on August 10, 2023, 07:24:01 AM
Quote from: Greger on August 09, 2023, 05:44:15 AMThese tools skills and knowledge is fast disappearing. This one wooden ship builder had 4 or 5 adzes and for every specific job he would make a new handle for the one he chose. He spent several months or a couple of years at the union hall learning how and the why's to do this... ...So much incredible knowledge and skills are being lost.
Greger, you are in Washington, yeah, so this might be familiar when wood reigned supreme.
https://archive.org/details/Duckworth1923ShipJoineryUpld
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: Steelmillal on August 10, 2023, 08:41:07 AM
Don't' forget this very helpful page. Hutch was one of the few that collected the brand I do, and what he presented was factual and accurate in method.
https://movsd.com/tailors_shears/
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: Der Zuschneider on March 05, 2024, 02:41:54 PM
I bought a nice 13 inch Heinisch.

Is there any professional in the USA, who can refurbish them?
I have one in Germany but there must be someone also here, who I can trust.
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: manny on March 06, 2024, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: Der Zuschneider on March 05, 2024, 02:41:54 PMI bought a nice 13 inch Heinisch.

Is there any professional in the USA, who can refurbish them?
I have one in Germany but there must be someone also here, who I can trust.

Try Ross Cutlery in Los Angeles, they offer sharpening and repair/restoration services. I've taken a couple shears for sharpening and have been happy with the results.

They're website isn't up to date, best to call them or visit in person. http://rosscutlery.com/repair-restoration/
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: Der Zuschneider on March 07, 2024, 01:09:12 PM
Quote from: manny on March 06, 2024, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: Der Zuschneider on March 05, 2024, 02:41:54 PMI bought a nice 13 inch Heinisch.

Is there any professional in the USA, who can refurbish them?
I have one in Germany but there must be someone also here, who I can trust.

Try Ross Cutlery in Los Angeles, they offer sharpening and repair/restoration services. I've taken a couple shears for sharpening and have been happy with the results.

They're website isn't up to date, best to call them or visit in person. http://rosscutlery.com/repair-restoration/
Can you send me a picture of their work from one of your shears? Uschoen@hotmail.com
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: Der Zuschneider on March 09, 2024, 09:02:52 AM
Today, I got a 15.5 inch Heinisch in excellent condition. She just need to be sharpened and polished and I have to repaint the handles. Such shears are now sold at 600$ in this condition. Prices have risen ridiculous. 

Even Mueller Cutting books are now at 450$. I wanted to sell them here 3 years ago for 100$ but nobody of you were interested in those books. Lucky me, I am selling them good book by book.
Title: Re: TAILORS' SHEARS
Post by: Greger on March 16, 2024, 06:09:22 PM
Quote from: Steelmillal on August 10, 2023, 07:24:01 AM
Quote from: Greger on August 09, 2023, 05:44:15 AMThese tools skills and knowledge is fast disappearing. This one wooden ship builder had 4 or 5 adzes and for every specific job he would make a new handle for the one he chose. He spent several months or a couple of years at the union hall learning how and the why's to do this... ...So much incredible knowledge and skills are being lost.
Greger, you are in Washington, yeah, so this might be familiar when wood reigned supreme.
https://archive.org/details/Duckworth1923ShipJoineryUpld

Thanks. That is quite Book.