Front scye measure device

Started by vaibhavkhurana, December 17, 2024, 06:48:50 PM

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Hendrick

Quote from: Der Zuschneider on December 25, 2024, 07:51:19 AM
Quote from: peterle on December 22, 2024, 07:45:30 PMWhat are your experiences?
Did you use them and are they useful devices?
There was a similar  kind of frame metal device for the Lenassi System "Der Reformschneider". Didn't look very handy...
I have that Lenassi device here too in a box. Excellent tool. Probably the best ever developed.
But really you dont need those devices. You can use a strong paper folded in the middle and put it under the arm to find the scye depth. Once you have the scye depth compared with the proportion, you can figure out, what is wrong with the body.

Yes, that and a small leadline or plumb line and a square angle to find a perfect horizontal as well as determine the fore- and back arm points. Like Greger said it is imperative that everything is perfectly level; the armhole is formed in a perfect rectangle.

Cheers, Hendrick 

Greger

Drape is a straighter cut. Which means the front edge is closer to the neck point.
One way to maybe describe it is, draw lines down from the front edge, neck point, end shoulder point (this can vary), and the seam that sews to the back.
With these lines drawn you can move the front line closer to the neckpoint line (not sure Scholt did this). The shoulder end line can be moved over, which moves the scye over. Or move the side seam over, which changes the scye as necessary. If you want 2 inches of drape you are pushing these lines apart somehow to get the drape you want and where. Anderson and Shepard may still add an inch to the back shoulder. And there is shrinking and stretching to produce pleasing shapes and clean fall of cloth.
A normal pattern can be adjusted this way. Have inlays and at the fitting decide what floats your boat.

pfaff260

I had posted it before, but here it is again. somehow it disappeared.


















NEIL

Hello vaibhavkhurana,

Just thought you might find this useful:

https://i.postimg.cc/QxpHrMZQ/CPG-Scye.png
I hope Rory doesn't get annoyed with me for sharing this, however, he makes it clear in his new drafting book that this device is super old, can't be attributed, and is beyond copyright, etc., ...

You might also be interested in:
https://perkinstailoringinstruments.com

best -
NEIL

vaibhavkhurana

Hey Niel,

Thank you for this.

I do actually own the perkin's kit.

Even though it works great when it comes to adjust front vs back balance. I wanted to recreate the front scye device because of its mystery.

I dont usually need to take depth of scye or blade or strap measurement with the system i use but i'm always looking to innovate and i do feel that not taking these measurement is a hinderance to the craft even though with the system i use its not needed.

Still relatively new to the field ( only been like 8-9 months) and want to really create something i feel i've given everything to.

NEIL

Wonderful!
It sounds like you're way ahead of the game, vaibhavkhurana ...

I was also trained in a slightly different method that does not utilize these devices but I too am always willing to learn new tricks if it means I can improve upon the quality of the work.

You've only been at it 8-9 months now?
You're a superstar -

Best -
NEIL

Anni S.

Quote from: vaibhavkhurana on December 17, 2024, 06:48:50 PMHas anyone used this or recreated this?





I am new to the forum and can't see a Foto or link of the tool. Please anyone, tell me what I am doing wrong. :(

Gerry

Quote from: Anni S.I am new to the forum and can't see a Foto or link of the tool. Please anyone, tell me what I am doing wrong. :(

Make sure you're logged in, then you should be able to see links and photos.

stoo23

QuoteMake sure you're logged in, then you should be able to see links and photos.
Well, 'Anni S', would have HAD to be logged-in to have made that post  ;)

I am unsure Why you cannot see Photos etc,.... What browser and operating system are you using ??

'You may want to try typing; Ctrl+F5 this will cause your B rowser to Load the latest/current 'live' Page, instead of (perhaps), loading the Last page you visited from it's Cache  :) 

Gerry

Quote from: stoo23 on January 04, 2025, 09:01:18 AM
QuoteMake sure you're logged in, then you should be able to see links and photos.
Well, 'Anni S', would have HAD to be logged-in to have made that post  ;)

I am unsure Why you cannot see Photos etc,.... What browser and operating system are you using ??

Ha ha, good point!   :) I have flu at the moment so my brain is totally disengaged.

I had a similar problem a few weeks ago. I cleared all my cookies and browsing history, then rebooted my laptop.

stoo23

Yeah,.. I was kinda thinking the same thing, in fact I'll Edit my previous post.

Due to the sudden arrival of a Lot of Fake Account registrations and Spammers, I was looking into the New Member Permissions and to allow me greater control over those, I DID 'enable' a particular function, that had Not been enabled previously ... but having checked, it has NOT changed anything, as far as access etc goes.

Hopefully they will return and respond so a solution can be achieved  :)